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Discussion Between: |
Luke (in physical) and a group of Native American Spirits |
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Discussion Medium: |
Sarah (Canada) |
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Discussion Date: |
16th October 2007 |
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Message Subject: |
Some spirits who were at a Psychic fair in Adelaide, Australia in June of 2007 have come to ask some questions. |
Spirit: My name is White Eagle Spirit, and I represent a group of spirits you met at the Psychic fair in Adelaide. We know that it has been quite some time since you were last there, but we wanted to discuss with you some things that happened that day, and also to get more information about what to do now.
You may have realized while you were there, that there are many spirits who attend events like that, and so we were hoping that day to influence many people to come and speak through our medium, the medium who channels I and my friends. However, on that day, you did not go to our medium friend and we would like to know why it is that you were able to discern who has these genuine gifts and who doesn't, and why it is that you operate in this level of discernment when so many people simply trust in the gifts of spirit.
We felt curious, but also insulted, on that day, that you who seem so bright were not willing to speak with us, who are also, we perceive, quite developed. Also, we feel that since that time we have have found our beliefs thrown into turmoil. So I have come here to speak with you about your beliefs.
Luke: It's nice to hear from you again. It's interesting that you should come, I remember that on that day we asked if there were any spirits that wanted to talk to us, and no one wanted to. Were you guys nervous at the time? What were your feelings?
Spirits: We feel that we are developed, but we had some feelings of hurt and frustration. We feel that the time to speak to you is now. Because although we have tried to look and resolve these questions on our own, we haven't been able to find a suitable way of doing so. And there are many things that we would like to discuss with you but the first is why and how you know which spirits would be viable for you to receive information from.
Luke: Would you like to know a little more how to get rid of some of these negative feelings that you guys have?
Spirits: Yes.
Luke: As you're aware, in the spirit world there are many different planes of existance. You would probably be aware of some up to a certain level. How many spheres have you become aware of?
Spirits: We are in the third sphere. And we have felt that that is as high as a person can go, three being a number of perfection.
Luke: Well, there are actually many more spheres than that, and the way that you develop from one sphere to the next is actually a little different than what you are thinking. What do you feel is the method of progressing through the spheres?
Spirits: We commune with the earth, and study its creatures. We spend time with creatures in the spirit world and learn their ways. We offer things up to the Goddess. We talk with each other about the things we observe in the signs in the earth. We find that we are filled with love for the earth.
We are not so much a community, as a group of individuals intellectually searching. We, however, feel a deep attachment to this land.
Luke: There are many spheres above where you're at, and the way these boundaries are crossed is by the amount of love in your soul. You'll notice that as you develop your love in your soul, your soul vibration has raised and you can get to the next level. So to continue in your progress past where you are, you need to learn lessons of love, and that means that you need to allow your soul to let more Love enter it. The thing that blocks more of this Love from entering the soul, is the negative feelings that we have inside us. Do you understand what I mean by that?
Spirit: Yeah.
Luke: So let's say that you have these feelings of disappointment, sadness, and fear – those emotions inside your soul are blocking more love from getting into you. As you pray to God, or the Goddess, however you call Her or Him, that Love will flow into you, but only as much as you are also willing to allow those beliefs and feelings within that are in contradiction to that Love, to flow out of you.
Spirit: What we would like to discuss with you is that issue, in addition to when we attempted to meet you, in Australia. We feel that our group lacks community, it lacks cohesion. I, who am not above reflection, can see that I was hurt, when you did not speak to us through our medium, because I desire friendship and community with others. However, we have difficulty maintaining these ties within ourselves. Very much difficulty. Although maintaining a connection to earth and to animals is not difficult for us. We have taken the names of animals and study their ways. We can see the coming changes, and as we know more, we would like to discuss them with you. But at this time, we feel that we are so lost.
Luke: Well, the emotion that was triggered for you on that day, and that continues to be triggered, has to do with that feeling that you feel of lack of community. It has to do with some emotions that came into your soul while you were very young on earth, an infant even. It had to do with the lack of community among humans on earth. Do you remember some of those feelings that you felt during your early years on earth.
Spirit: I as an individual?
Luke: You and as a group.
Spirit: We will talk about this in our group. . .
We felt perfect as individuals, and it is easy for us to remember that time, because at that time we did not feel as much pollution entering into our awareness. However, we experienced, with age, a fall from grace. It is very hard to go through that process. We have compassion for infants on the earth at this time, for those reasons. However, we have difficulty reconciling that being with the beings that we now have become.
Luke: Well, the thing that I would suggest to you about this particular emotion is that the “fall from grace” that you experienced is actually feelings of disappointment, feelings of mistrust that have grown in you, and in how you relate to other people. The reasons you feel difficulty forming a community, is because each of you feels mistrust of other people deep inside, due to injuries and emotions that entered the soul while you were very young, and that you are afraid of actually letting yourself experience and release. While you experience those emotions, they will pour out of your soul, they will flow out, and then you will find it easier for more love to enter your soul. Love that is not just for the earth and for animals, but also love for your fellow human, and love for many things that you have not yet experienced. But you will need to allow yourselves to experience and release those feelings of mistrust, disappointment, and fear.
Spirits: We think we take your meaning. It is very hard for us to trust other people. Although we would like to present our group as a whole, a cohesive whole, we feel that it is hard for us at this time to do so. Our medium feels conflicted, because of our disjunct behaviour. We act as many, and not as one. We lose numbers of our number. We have moved from one land to the next three times in our history, through what you call spheres. We move lands, and we leave members behind. We wonder if they die on the trail, and we are concerned. We are also aware that some go on ahead. However, the communication between us is not great enough that we can know the trail ahead, and this pains us.
Luke: I'm wondering if you'd be willing to invite some spirits here. There is a very wonderful place above the seventh sphere, which is known by some as the Celestial Heavens. If you'd be willing to meet some of our friends from that place, they could come and share information on how to progress most rapidly and efficiently, and some of the experiences that they have had.
Spirits: (voice trembling)
Ohh. . . we feel very afraid. We're not sure that we can be with beings that are so like God. We see them coming through the grasses and we feel very afraid. We feel that we cannot do this at this time, we cannot do this.
Luke: (softly) Just feel for a moment your fear, and listen to the love that is coming from them. Let yourself trust for a minute, that these people do not want to hurt you in any way.
Spirits: (overwhelmed with fear)
We need to. . . go. . . for a moment.
Luke: All right. Just let yourself feel this for a moment. . .
(they leave for a few minutes and return,)
Spirits: We are ready.
Luke: Has one of the Celestial Spirits come forward to speak to you?
Spirits: Yes.
Luke: Are you willing to listen to them?
Spirits: Yeah.
Luke: Okay. . .
Spirits: We would like to tell you before we converse with this spirit, where we are, which is a place so beautiful it recalls the places we were born, and where we grew up, in the Great American Plains, before our world was destroyed. We are so afraid to lose this place.
Luke: These spirits will show you some of the beautiful places where they are from, that are even more beautiful then you can currently imagine.
Spirits: (crying) We live in peace. We do not want to lose this place. We have tried so hard to be safe. We did not know how many feelings we have had of lack of safety, until we have met your friends, who have no such concerns.
Luke: You will not lose anything. You will only gain.
Spirits: (crying even stronger)
Thank you so much for you help, my friend.
Luke: No problem, come back again some time.
Spirits: (through sobs)
We will. . . good-bye now.